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*https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability - Visual explanation of features | *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability - Visual explanation of features | ||
*https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability - Discussion tools extension in action.<u>Example.</u> | *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability - Discussion tools extension in action.<u>Example.</u> | ||
Getting Discussion Tools installed is not super easy but should be possible. While "Discussion Tools" is addressing some issues those are the problems i still see: | Getting Discussion Tools installed is not super easy but should be possible. While "Discussion Tools" is addressing some issues those are the advantages and problems i still see: | ||
=== Advantages of Discussion Tools === | === Advantages of Discussion Tools === | ||
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* Discussions on the Discussion section are as tightly integrated with the Wiki as possible | * Discussions on the Discussion section are as tightly integrated with the Wiki as possible | ||
* It is possible to have multiple discussion topics/threats in the discussion page related to one article. | * It is possible to have multiple discussion topics/threats in the discussion page related to one article. | ||
* There is not yet another platform. | * There is <u>not</u> yet another platform. | ||
=== Disadvantages of Discussions Tools === | === Disadvantages of Discussions Tools === | ||
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* Discussions in Wiki are harder to read and less fun(?) | * Discussions in Wiki are harder to read and less fun(?) | ||
* It is not possible to use emojis or reactions. (Workaround: Use "thank you" function via "view history" if you want to agree with a statement in private) | * It is not possible to use emojis or reactions. (Workaround: Use "thank you" function via "view history" if you want to agree with a statement in private) | ||
* No overview over | * No overview over all Discussions. Some discussions can be "lost" when they are attached to minor articles. Central and important discussions need to be highlighted. It's harder to join into a discussion as a third party. (But you can see all ongoing discussions easily in a Forum) | ||
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== Option 2: Forums == | == Option 2: Forums -Discourse == | ||
The alternative for an open work environment to discussion tools are forums. | The alternative for an open work environment to discussion tools are forums. | ||
Corresponding forum threads could be linked to a respective Wikiarticle at the top of the | Corresponding forum threads could be linked to a respective Wikiarticle at the top of the Wikiarticle. | ||
=== Forum Selection === | === Forum Selection === | ||
Criteria for forums: Ability to subscribe, notifications, mobile friendly, emoji reactions | Criteria for forums: Ability to subscribe, notifications, mobile friendly, emoji reactions | ||
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* Discourse - Every single large crypto project is using Discourse. Some [[mediawikiwiki:Discourse|advantages]] over traditional forum. All of the above criteria full filled. | * Discourse - Every single large crypto project is using Discourse. Some [[mediawikiwiki:Discourse|advantages]] over traditional forum. All of the above criteria full filled. | ||
*https://www.discourse.org/integrations | *https://www.discourse.org/integrations | ||
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*https://www.phpbb.com/ - Most classical forum with many extensions | *https://www.phpbb.com/ - Most classical forum with many extensions | ||
*https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpforo/ - Discourse seems to be able to cover all relevant functions via add-on as well. | *https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpforo/ - Discourse seems to be able to cover all relevant functions via add-on as well. | ||
=== Advantages of a forum === | |||
* A forum is open and there is no need to create an account to view the content. That increases our conversions. (I witnessed older users shying away from creating a discord account) | |||
* A forum feels more "open". | |||
* Discussions are persistent (and don't get lost in channels) | |||
* Clear overview over all Discussions | |||
* Discourse is more suitable for a serious brand than having all discussions in Discord. | |||
*[https://blog.discourse.org/2021/11/discourse-forum-seo/ Seo is possible] | |||
* It might be easier to catch up when being tagged on a forum compared to when being tagged on Discord. (Because you get an Email) | |||
* Email notifications on topics make it easier to draw people back in. | |||
* It's easier and faster to browse back in very long forum threads in Discourse compared to Discord channels. | |||
* It is possible to open a new topic as a new thread for a new topic or initiative. Example: "A new research initiative into AI companies" or "Discussion if we should use an Forum". It's harder to do this on Discord because we don't want to open a new channel but also not the conversation to get pushed back by too much. | |||
* There can be fewer active channels in Discord people can focus on & have more "real time" communication channels. | |||
* It is possible in a forum to Find all posts and topics from one user easily which helps with credibility building. | |||
=== Disadvantages of a forum === | |||
* We are using yet another platform | |||
* Seofriendliness vs. Wiki-Discussion Tools unclear. | |||
* Users might be confused among the Forum and the Wiki. | |||
* Users might work on articles in the Wiki less? | |||
== Option 3: Discord Threads == | == Option 3: Discord Threads == | ||