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The purpose of this page is to determine which main communication tools we want to use for our discussions. For our overall tool architecture see: [[Development|Development.]] | The purpose of this page is to determine which main communication tools we want to use for our discussions. For our overall tool architecture see: [[Development|Development.]] | ||
== Decision on Structured Discussions - Do we need a Forum? == | |||
== Decision on Structured Discussions - Do we need a Forum? | |||
"Structured discussion are currently happen partially on Linear, Discord, and Wikipedia. | "Structured discussion are currently happen partially on Linear, Discord, and Wikipedia. | ||
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* Discussion on a company or macro topic | * Discussion on a company or macro topic | ||
* Discussions on workflows | * Discussions on workflows | ||
* Discussions with fundamental value that we want to preserve (and use to build to Wikiarticles) | * Discussions with fundamental value that we want to preserve (and use to build to Wikiarticles) | ||
=== Open Questions === | === Open Questions === | ||
* What should be discussed internally what should be discussed publicly? | * What should be discussed internally what should be discussed publicly? | ||
== Option 1: Wiki Discussion Page + "Discussion Tools" == | == Option 1: Wiki Discussion Page + "Discussion Tools" == | ||
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In order to get an understanding how "Discussion Tools" work you can have a lock at these three links, especially the second and third one or explore it within Wikipedia. | In order to get an understanding how "Discussion Tools" work you can have a lock at these three links, especially the second and third one or explore it within Wikipedia. | ||
*https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Feature_summary - Written summary | *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Feature_summary - Written summary | ||
*https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability - Visual explanation of features | *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Usability - Visual explanation of features | ||
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability - Discussion tools extension in action. | *https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_project/Usability - Discussion tools extension in action. | ||
Getting Discussion Tools installed is not super easy but should be possible. While "Discussion Tools" is addressing some issues those are the problems i still see: | Getting Discussion Tools installed is not super easy but should be possible. While "Discussion Tools" is addressing some issues those are the problems i still see: | ||
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* Discussions on the Discussion section are as tightly integrated with the Wiki as possible | * Discussions on the Discussion section are as tightly integrated with the Wiki as possible | ||
* It is possible to have multiple discussion topics/threats in the discussion page related to one article. | * It is possible to have multiple discussion topics/threats in the discussion page related to one article. | ||
* There is not yet another platform. | * There is not yet another platform. | ||
=== Disadvantages of Discussions Tools === | === Disadvantages of Discussions Tools === | ||
* Users not familiar with wikipedia discussions will probably not find the discussion sections easily, and find it hard to use them hence don't participate in discussions frequently. | * Users not familiar with wikipedia discussions will probably not find the discussion sections easily, and find it hard to use them hence don't participate in discussions frequently. | ||
* Adding comments on the discussion page via mobile is not very user friendly. We might loose engagement. | * Adding comments on the discussion page via mobile is not very user friendly. We might loose engagement. | ||
* Discussions in Wiki are harder to read and less fun(?) | * Discussions in Wiki are harder to read and less fun(?) | ||
* It is not possible to use emojis or reactions. (Workaround: Use "thank you" function via "view history" if you want to agree with a statement in private) | * It is not possible to use emojis or reactions. (Workaround: Use "thank you" function via "view history" if you want to agree with a statement in private) | ||
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* A forum is open and there is no need to create an account to view the content. That increases our conversions. (I witnessed older users shying away from creating a discord account) | * A forum is open and there is no need to create an account to view the content. That increases our conversions. (I witnessed older users shying away from creating a discord account) | ||
* A forum feels more "open". | * A forum feels more "open". | ||
* Discussions are persistent (and don't get lost in channels) | * Discussions are persistent (and don't get lost in channels) | ||
* Clear overview over all Discussions | * Clear overview over all Discussions | ||
* Discourse is more suitable for a serious brand than having all discussions in Discord. | * Discourse is more suitable for a serious brand than having all discussions in Discord. | ||
* [https://blog.discourse.org/2021/11/discourse-forum-seo/ Seo is possible] | *[https://blog.discourse.org/2021/11/discourse-forum-seo/ Seo is possible] | ||
* It might be easier to catch up when being tagged on a forum compared to when being tagged on Discord. (Because you get an Email) | * It might be easier to catch up when being tagged on a forum compared to when being tagged on Discord. (Because you get an Email) | ||
* Email notifications on topics make it easier to draw people back in. | * Email notifications on topics make it easier to draw people back in. | ||
* It's easier to browse back in very long forum threads in Discourse compared to Discord channels. | * It's easier to browse back in very long forum threads in Discourse compared to Discord channels. | ||
* It is possible to open a new topic as a new thread. Example: "A new research initiative into AI companies" or "Discussion if we should use an Forum". It's harder to do this on Discord because we don't want to open a new channel but also not the conversation to get pushed back by too much. | * It is possible to open a new topic as a new thread. Example: "A new research initiative into AI companies" or "Discussion if we should use an Forum". It's harder to do this on Discord because we don't want to open a new channel but also not the conversation to get pushed back by too much. | ||
* There can be fewer active channels in Discord people can focus on & have more "real time" communication channels. | * There can be fewer active channels in Discord people can focus on & have more "real time" communication channels. | ||
* It is possible in a forum to Find all posts and topics from one user easily which helps with credibility building. | * It is possible in a forum to Find all posts and topics from one user easily which helps with credibility building. | ||
=== Disadvantages of a forum === | === Disadvantages of a forum === | ||
* We are using yet another platform | * We are using yet another platform | ||
* Seofriendliness vs. Wiki-Discussion Tools unclear. | * Seofriendliness vs. Wiki-Discussion Tools unclear. | ||
* Users might be confused among the Forum and the Wiki. | * Users might be confused among the Forum and the Wiki. | ||
* Users might work on articles in the Wiki less? | * Users might work on articles in the Wiki less? | ||
=== Forum Selection === | === Forum Selection === | ||
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'''Consideration''' | '''Consideration''' | ||
* Discourse - Every single large crypto project is using Discourse. Some [[mediawikiwiki:Discourse|advantages]] over traditional forum. All of the above criteria full filled. | * Discourse - Every single large crypto project is using Discourse. Some [[mediawikiwiki:Discourse|advantages]] over traditional forum. All of the above criteria full filled. | ||
* https://www.discourse.org/integrations | *https://www.discourse.org/integrations | ||
* https://www.discourse.org/plugins#business | *https://www.discourse.org/plugins#business | ||
Examples of Discourse Forums: | Examples of Discourse Forums: | ||
* https://forum.gelato.network/ | *https://forum.gelato.network/ | ||
* https://ethereum-magicians.org/ | *https://ethereum-magicians.org/ | ||
'''Not now''' | '''Not now''' | ||
* Reddit | * Reddit | ||
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*https://xenforo.com/purchase/ - Used by Tesla Motors Club | *https://xenforo.com/purchase/ - Used by Tesla Motors Club | ||
*https://www.phpbb.com/ - Most classical forum with many extensions | *https://www.phpbb.com/ - Most classical forum with many extensions | ||
* https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpforo/ - Discourse seems to be able to cover all relevant functions via add-on as well. | *https://wordpress.org/plugins/wpforo/ - Discourse seems to be able to cover all relevant functions via add-on as well. | ||
== Option 3: Discord Threads == | == Option 3: Discord Threads == | ||
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* Very fast discussions. (In any case i still plan to use Discord. In my new vision of Discord we have fewer channels which in turn are more active. I like the Miraheze Discord server. They just have one channel which is very active [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Discord]) | * Very fast discussions. (In any case i still plan to use Discord. In my new vision of Discord we have fewer channels which in turn are more active. I like the Miraheze Discord server. They just have one channel which is very active [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Discord]) | ||
* Discord is familiar with people who are active in other Discord communities (Esp. Cryptocommunities) | * Discord is familiar with people who are active in other Discord communities (Esp. Cryptocommunities) | ||
* Discord feels more private? | * Discord feels more private? | ||
* It's easy to communicate on Discord with others. | * It's easy to communicate on Discord with others. | ||
=== Disadvantages of Discord === | === Disadvantages of Discord === | ||
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* We will have many Discord threads | * We will have many Discord threads | ||
* Discord servers have [https://www.reddit.com/r/TechSEO/comments/qxf6er/is_there_any_benefit_to_starting_a_discord_server/ no seo impact] | * Discord servers have [https://www.reddit.com/r/TechSEO/comments/qxf6er/is_there_any_benefit_to_starting_a_discord_server/ no seo impact] | ||
* It's hard to determine where a topic should be discussed. | * It's hard to determine where a topic should be discussed. | ||
== Option 4: Linear Workspace == | == Option 4: Linear Workspace == | ||
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=== Advantages of Linear === | === Advantages of Linear === | ||
* Cool Inbox & Due Dates & Assignments (Could be replicated to some degree by Discourse) | * Cool Inbox & Due Dates & Assignments (Could be replicated to some degree by Discourse) | ||
* Very good notifications via Slack integration. | * Very good notifications via Slack integration. | ||
=== Disadvantages of Linear === | === Disadvantages of Linear === | ||
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== Option 5: More or new Ideas? == | == Option 5: More or new Ideas? == | ||
Add other ideas here. | Add other ideas here. | ||
== Types of Discussion - Possible Layout. == | |||
There are different types of discussions. Currently i see the follow tools for the follow types | |||
* Discord: Casual discussion/chatting. | |||
* Forum/Discourse: Structured Discussion e.g. on a company or macro topic. | |||
* Linear. Short task related discussion. | |||
* Wiki Discussion Pages. Concrete Discussion or Feedback about an article. | |||
* Wiki Pro and Con Article. Discussion on fundamentally important setup/decision with many pros and cons. | |||
Different Platforms from Casual to Serious: | |||
Reddit -> Discord -> Discourse -> Wiki -> Sheets | |||
Internal: Linear | |||
Open Source Project Management: Phabricator | |||
== Final Assessment == | == Final Assessment == | ||
'''<u>Moritz:</u>''' In my assessment only WikiDiscussions or Discourse makes sense for structured discussions as they full fill our openness and documentation requirements. Discord can still be used for casual chatting/discussions and Linear for Project Management. | '''<u>Moritz:</u>''' In my assessment only WikiDiscussions or Discourse makes sense for structured discussions as they full fill our openness and documentation requirements. Discord can still be used for casual chatting/discussions and Linear for Project Management. | ||